They are very similar, with some bits chopped out in the show and moved around. 7mo Trenttrip r/ImaginaryWesteros. 2. Tyrion get's pissed because he loves Jaime (in the earlier books anyway) and over time contrives a plot to bring down House Baratheon. OK, those are just words, and as GRRM likes to constantly remind us, "words are wind". I guess he just seemed more uncertain in the show than I read it in the books. That he was, lol. Kills Lord Fell and defeats / captures his famous son Silver Axe in single combat. LOL. ago Well in the books, Renly is described as basically just a younger spitting image of Robert SisterAndromeda2007 1 mo. Every Crown Begins With a Tinfoil Hat. Standard gear puts Robert in plate and mail armor with a shield as well. The lore behind Robert Baratheon from Game of Thrones/ASoIaFexplained. But we can agree that he believes he could beat Gregor if he played his cards right. This motherfucker was one of those foolish medieval leaders to take the vanguard, but he makes it work because he's too damn awesome. 2. I'd imagine he'd be too quick and too skilled even for someone as deadly as King Robert was. You may have to register Game of Thrones, HBO. Fury is a definite characteristic of the Baratheon brothers, whether it be the relentless and implacable resentment of Stannis, or the ferocious rage of Robert (I admit Renly doesn't really possess it ;)). I think Jaime should win this. He also said that he had every reason not to fight due to Cersei's bribes. Even as a king in peacetime he's still pretty strong, IIRC he drunkenly shoved Jaime in full plate around and almost took him off his feet. . Scenario 1: They're on foot. Age 18 - Tourney Melee Winner at Harrenhal. When they're flat on their backs it don't matter how tall they are. ago It looks like a mix of Renly and Val Kilmer Philip of Macedon 192 Nimble-Dick-Crabb 1 mo. In the books Bronn said that he believed that he could beat Gregor if he played his cards right. I give to Jaime, but contend he probably takes some damage in the doing. Introduced in 1996's A Game of Thrones, Robert is the eldest son and heir of Lord Steffon Baratheon. He was the The Demon for a reason! He'd have to keep dodging until Gregor tires and I don't see that happening. 6a. Bobby B definitely wins this one. His wife, Queen dowager Cersei, of House Lannister . Fat Robert would destroy him. If they had crossed paths, it is said he would have also slayed Griff, the Hand of the King himself. asked Tyrion, hoping to provoke him. How strong do you think he was because the stories make him out too be the strongest man on the trident and do you think he could beat the clegane brothers. Killing Rhaegar in single combat was never a surprise. Robert's in his prime, Jaime is as he was when Robb captured him. Scenario 4: Same as 3, but they're mounted. @rogueshadow: I Agee with everything except for round 3. Jaime's in plate. I disagree as I think that his sheer anger over Cersei would make him far too eager to kill Robert swiftly, rather than being patient and utilising his skill more. If you guess when the book will be out, print screen it, and contact me if you were right and you will receive a prize too.TUNE IN NOW TO:FANTASY DUELS#1 round- The Mountain naked covered in honey vs A Grizzly- Grizzly wins#2 Round 2- Grizzly vs Robert Baratheon with warhammer, armour, helm and on horse back but arena is on ice.#Round 3Prizes to be won if you can make the best story about how the fight would go two giveaways- 1 for the most upvotes, the other which i personally thought was the funniest. If you catch a sword blow the way you want it to the attacker will be staggered whereas you'll be free to counter attack. Unless we see some outstanding skill feats, all Robert has on the Egyptian is one hell of a gear advantagewhich should allow him to take a minority and not be steamrolled. And how do you block a two handed sword that's so heavy most people can't even lift it? The warm up.The bear triumphed over a naked mountain covered in honey and now moves on to face the demon of the trident Robert BaratheonArmour, on horseback with Warhammer.I am now just analysing Roberts style before announcing the winner.Fantasy ShirePrizes to be won- Subscribe, like, and comment which of these you would like and you will be picked at random. Both are bloodlusted to hell and back. Eesh.the Egyptian has wicked durability and skill feats, I think all things being equal he should win as we do not have any on-panel feats for Robert. He cut straight through elite knights and protectors on his own, when taken by surprise. Scenario 1: They're on foot. A fun parody of Game of Thrones where I meme the crap out of Robert Baratheon and add in a lot of creative and funny edits.Thank you to my Patrons: DXXG, Wes Makowski, k4nd17r33, Debbs, Maty Penosil, Paul Hahn, Jerrod, Lauvelga, Jordan Koehn, Nicky, and Subliminal Transformation.https://www.patreon.com/user?u=20450805Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for \"fair use\" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. You can't match the Demon of the Trident in pure bloodlust and ferocity, it's impossible for anybody in the entire series imo. Robert, at the Battle of the Bells while still injured and with sword in hand (not even with his warhammer of choice), dropped half a dozen knights and even a notable champion knight (once a squire to Prince Rhaegar). A truly beast. 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Robert I Baratheon Biographical Information Alias Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of His Name Robert the Usurper The Demon of the Trident The Whoremonger King Born In 263 AC At Storm's End Died In 298 AC In the Red Keep Title King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men Lord of the Seven Kingdoms Protector of the Realm Ser Robert the has armour and the Strength to put down the Egyptian that war hammer has great reach. It's a characteristic which makes them more dangerous rather than less, as witnessed by Robert's fight with Rhaegar, and Stannis' grim pragmatism and determination which keeps him in the game much longer than it might have been guessed, and it causes me to definitely favour Fat Bob in 3 and 4. Swords are sh*t against plate. I think Jaime can skill his way through this despite Robert's advantages. The thing is that not only is he strong, he also uses a hammer which compliments this fact. He's actually beat notable guys on horseback before. He has a monstrous long reach, and doesn't seem to feel blows the way a normal man would.". @wut I know, I was being cheeky and commenting on how GoT's combat is unrealistic. Jaime has a chance on horseback, hes a better jouster on foot Prime Robert is the top of the top, Ned fought Prime Dayne after that he STILL CALLED ROBERT PEERLESS enough said. @cregan_stark: Bronn wears light armor and no shield, though. Round 3. This means in his prime he had the same brute strength he displays in AFFC. Robert. @cregan_stark: He's fast enough that Gregor never managed to touch him. Robert I Baratheon is the King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm of Westeros, and the head of House Baratheon of King's Landing. I don't remember if it was mentioned in the book itself (probably was) but GRRM definitely mentioned it elsewhere that I read. Nonetheless, family traits are often shown to be particularly significant in ASOIAF-world; characters like the Cleganes and Umbers are shown to have nigh-on superhuman strength and durability, and the old familes of the North and the Valyrians certain recurrent magical traits. $14.95 a month after 30 days. What? Their eldest son and Robert's heir,. Robert's in his prime, Jaime is as he was when Robb captured him. Also both Clegane brothers are said to be ridiculously fast for their size. I stand by my original opinion due to crazy skill/durability feats DISPLAYED by the Egyptiani am being more than fair as even in the book there is no contemporaneous PoV directly describing events attributable to robert. We know for fact he was as strong as he was. Equipment wise, full gear pits Robert with a warhammer vs Gregor with a greatsword. The warm up..The bear triumphed over a naked mountain covered in honey and now moves on to face the demon of the trident Robert BaratheonArmour, on horseba. Although I'm not sure about the outcomes of Round 1 and 2, I think that Robert should take Rounds 3 and 4. I've said numerous times that I think Bronn would defeat Gregor 1 on 1 due to due style and he's basically a poor man's Jaime. @wut: yes yes I'm very familiar with Gregor and that still doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been great in single combat. In his prime he was a comparable size to the mountain which takes away the Mountains height advantage. Jaime's chances probably drop to 5/10, he simply can't go into this fight without a cool head or he'll lose it. That is assuming he doesn't get his head smashed like a pumpkin before that. It was a fun challenge and I learned a few things attempting something very different from my usual projects. Game of Thrones - Older, out-of-shape King Robert literally dropped Jaime (while in full plate armour) on his butt with one hand-slam across Jaime's chest plate. Robert was definetely one of the strongest men in Westeros at his prime, a bit smaller than Greatjon Umber and Sandor Clegane but probably a better warrior than any of them. Rhaegar won the TaH, wherein he defeated almost every notable rider in the realm, whereas Jaime has lost to Loras, Sandor, Jorah and others in jousting tourneys. @cregan_stark: I really don't see Jaime dodging forever, not in plate. However, Jaime is the best swordsman in the world of his generation - period, he's basically more skilled, taller and stronger Rhaegar. 4. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Listen all you want, no credits needed. Robert's main advantage was his amazing strength and range. 5. One handed Jaime can't beat anyone. Jaime says that Robert in his prime could outmatch almost anyone physically, so to answer your question: he was an excellent fighter. Actually the dialogue in the books and show was identical or damn near it, but Jerome Flynn played it with less surety than I had read it, so it's really up to interpretation. @wut: you're thinking of the show. Bronn gave a shrug. In his prime he was not only an adept fighter, a winner of melees and one of the strongest men in Westeros, a brutal 66' crusher, in heavy armor with antlers making him even taller, "muscled like a maiden's dream'', the envy of all in the martial culture of Westeros. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. His brother, Stannis, was born two years later. When I think of a bloodlusted Jaime I think of one that isn't messing around, isn't being cocky and will stop at nothing to see the other guy dead in the end. In other words, he is above Gregor when it comes to smashing things just because of his weapon. He has since been legitimized and inherited all titles held by his father. Clegane can crush a skull. They both have plate armor of the highest quality. Robert Baratheon is the optimal warrior - pretty fast and pretty damn strong despite wearing a hell of an armor and being a big guy (though not as big as Gregor to, I reiterate, slow him down and put him at a disadvantage against extremely small, yet fast and agile people like Oberyn Martell). Where we are explicitly told Jaime kills three of Rob's protectors before getting his sword stuck in the third lordling. What you get Your free, 30-day trial comes with: 1 credit (2 credits for Prime members), good for any premium selection titles you likeyours to keep. Robert was crowned king after King Aerys II Targaryen, his first cousin once removed, was killed during Robert's Rebellion. Round 1. The only one that ever beat him was Oberyn, one of the greatest warriors in aSoIaF and he would have butchered Bronn. Robert 7/10. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. While the Mountain is bigger and stronger, he's not . Image uploaded by . Robert Baratheon was born to Lord Steffon and Cassana Baratheon as the first-born son of the House Baratheon. He's freakish big and freakish strong. Probably around the same height of Smalljon, Victarion Greyjoy and Brienne but stronger than the three. Jaime would be in plate. Bronn: I'd be a bloody fool if he didn't frighten me. Gregor's more of a shock trooper, a vanguard. @rogueshadow: fair enough, they are more similar than I thought. Rhaegar was a legitimately great jouster as shown and as Barristan attested. The dialog was similar but I wouldn't say identical, Bronn looked annoyed. The Audible Plus Catalog of podcasts, audiobooks, guided wellness, and Audible Originals. You grip the blade to stiffen it to stab with greater penetration, normally, aiming at the joints. Posts. @pateuvasiliu: I don't agree that Oberyn is faster, maybe in the show but I'm not buying it in the books. "He was never fast. . 8. The Mountain wouldn't even be boss fight for Bobby B. Scenario 2: They're mounted. Ned, a fit man in his prime, could barely even lift it whereas Robert was fighting for entire days with it, swinging it around like a tennis racket. Unless we see some outstanding skill feats, all Robert has on the Egyptian is one hell of a gear advantagewhich should allow him to take a minority and not be steamrolled. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. It would be a good fight. Story emphasis is on tactical fighting, mind games, adventure, and the occasional bout of humor. @cregan_stark: Hasn't been great in single combat? Do we think Oberyn Martell would beat Robert? @rogueshadow: Why do you consider Rhaegar to be in another league than Jaime as a horserider while they were both tourneys champions ? Jaime 7/10. Even so, it's chancy. So I'm gonna go with Jaime because his last name is awesome. Robert can block Jaimie's sword with his gauntlet and control it if he gets a grip, then smash Jaimie's little head to goo. Cancel anytime. Answer (1 of 38): "King" Robert was fat and nearly useless, but even then he managed to kill a huge boar after being fatally gored by it. To start viewing messages, Fight takes place on the kingsroad ( solid road under their feet ). Jaime's feat at Whispering Wood is something out of high fantasy, it's much superior to any feat in the series (bar maybe Barristan fighting through Duskendale). By presentation I'm inclined to favour Robert. both are very powerful but egyptian is faster and more skilled IMO. King Robert Baratheon in his prime; in livery and in armour . @pateuvasiliu: Bronn's light armor and style is exactly how you beat Gregor, he will tire out and eventually go down. Easily GOAT tier in ASOIAF in my opinion, up there with the likes of Jaime, Barristan and Arthur Dayne. Dec 2017. Bronn could take Gregor, but it's clearly not something he's confident of, he acknowledges that his demise is as likely as his victory in both the books and show. Scenario 3: On foot. Because he would clearly have beaten the Mountain had it not been quite so personal and wanting to see Clegane confess. Robert Baratheon in his prime was regarded as one of the strongest men in Westeros, comparable to a teenage Gregor Clegane, and was described as broad-shouldered, heavily muscled and around 6 feet and 6 inches (198 cm) in height. Jaime just killed Lyanna and Robert bashed Cersei's head in with his hammer. Robert Baratheon portrait, by Gianmac. @rogueshadow: fair enough, they are more similar than I thought. 3. Ned said that Robert`s warhammer was so heavy that he could barely lift it and Robert fought with it, so that says something. @pateuvasiliu: The way Gregor fights, it's not a feat that others couldn't replicate. Also, I know he has the whole "Grutte Pier" giant weapon thing going for him, but it could prove difficult to fight such an agile inside fighter as the Egyptian with that hammerdefinately need to rely on armor holding up, wouldn't be changing momentum fast enough to block strikes etc. What's that, some kind of pokemon? He gets smashed like a watermelon. One misstep and I'm dead. Not sure, if Jaime is so passionate, he might actually be sloppier, he can't go headfirst and bloodlusted into a fight like this, Robert will crush him if he does. Jaime not having Valyrian Sword was always a bummer, but even then he was confident that he could defeat Robert, Mountain or HoundYou should add 5th round: Fat Robert vs One Handed Jaime. Robert Baratheon in his prime. And quicker than you'd expect for a man of that size. 3. In a 1-1 vs someone of Jamie's skills, war hammer tactics probably arent going to work well. Dodging isn't something you'll do a lot. @alphaq: That's not entirely true. 7. @wut: you're thinking of the show. Young Robert Baratheon in his prime 473 73 73 comments Best Add a Comment XipingVonHozzendorf 1 mo. A fun parody of Game of Thrones where I meme the crap out of Robert Baratheon and add in a lot of creative and funny edits.Thank you to my Patrons: DXXG, Wes. Also Robert Baratheon wasn't just big but he was a natural fighter. While Jaimie has to duck and weave while lookig for a weak spot Robert can crush Jaimie's armor around him. Jaimie is a better swordsman. Robert, a great warrior and charismatic man in his youth, took the throne through conquest in the war known as Robert's Rebellion. (Spoiler Main) Robert Baratheon in his prime is the best fighter in Westeros MAIN title. That's why virtually all knights carried maces and warhammers as their primary weapon once full plate became common. pause amazon prime uk; how much will you get paid if a 18wheeler hit you; hellsing or hellsing ultimate; king x reader owl house how to wake up at 3am . It's also important to note that Robert Baratheon is relatively fast for his size. Jaime rallied his remaining troops and had them all charge towards Rob Stark's position. They kill/mortally wound each other. Who would win, Robert Baratheon in his prime or Gregor Clegane? IC going for a kill. Round 2. 9. @darthfallax: Yes it's true. I'll grant you, he's quicker than you'd expect for a man that size. He's sparred well against multiple former champions of capua. Battle of Ashford - losses, fighting Lord Randyll Tarly's vanguard. Anyway, I change my answer to Robert, due to strenght, amor and reach advantage. Dunno how he would fare against his Warhammer, tho. In the books Bronn said that he believed that he could beat Gregor if he played his cards right. He's no Oberyn and Robert's much faster than Gregor. Barristan also says that he was a truly magnificent jouster. Robert I Baratheon Biographical information Status Deceased Born 252 AC at Storm's End Died 298 AC (aged 46) in King's Landing Mortally wounded by a wild boar Political information Allegiance House Baratheon of Storm's End (by birth) House Baratheon of King's Landing (founded) House Arryn (formerly, ward) House Targaryen (formerly, vassal) The disagreement here is that Jamie wouldn't have his arrogance in this round, he wouldn't toy around and wouldn't be swaggering like he's untouchable. @cregan_stark: In sword skill, maybe. This is, however, where the real spoilers occur. All good points, Ptrvc. Would have killed Hand of the King, Ser Jon Connington. Having a shield would be counter productive against Gregor. My money's on the Egyptian. Ned describes him in Game of Thrones as "a six and a half foot. You can't half-sword and use a shield at the same time. Robert still crushed him. I guess the real disagreement is on how Jaime would act if bloodlusted. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Well in truth I don't recall Gregor dueling anyone throughout the books but average-ish knights like Beric. He also said that he had every reason not to fight due to Cersei's bribes. The Egyptian relies mostly on blocking and parrying, I don't see him doing that to a warhammer and he hasn't the feats to suggest he can jjst dance around him forever.
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